The mesh0/mesh1 and ap0/ap1 Ethernet transports shipped commented out, and fips-mesh-setup / fips-ap-setup awk-toggled the comment prefix in fips.yaml when they created or removed an interface. That existed for one reason: a transport whose interface was missing at startup was skipped and never retried, so a stock install that never ran the helpers would have logged a bind warning every boot. The daemon now waits for the interface and binds it when it appears, so the toggling has nothing left to protect. The blocks ship enabled with optional: true — which is the honest statement about a radio the router may never configure — and the helpers create the interface and stop there. No config rewrite, and no "restart fips AFTER the interface is up" step anywhere in either procedure. phy0-sta0 (wwan) gets optional: true for the same reason: it only exists while a radio is in station mode. eth0 and br-lan stay required, and the test pins that they do — marking the whole ethernet block optional would silence exactly the failures this policy exists to surface. With presence on IFF_UP rather than IFF_UP|IFF_RUNNING, that stays correct for a router with nothing plugged into its LAN ports: absence now means the netdev is gone or admin-down, a real fault, rather than an empty switch port. fips-ap-setup still edits node.rendezvous.lan, and that one does still need a restart: it is a config value, not an interface. The changelog entry gains an upgrade note. fips.yaml is a package conffile, so a router whose setup script had already uncommented a block keeps that block untouched and never receives the new key; with optional defaulting to false the block is required, and an absent interface there stays Degraded and errors once at ten seconds where the shipped file is silent.
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Set Up an 802.11s Mesh Backhaul (OpenWrt)
Link FIPS routers over radio — no cables, no APs, no shared infrastructure — by running the Ethernet transport on an open 802.11s mesh interface. The radio layer provides nothing but L2 frames to direct neighbors; FIPS provides everything else: encryption and authentication (Noise IK), peer discovery (Ethernet beacons), and routing (the spanning tree).
For the transport design, see
../design/fips-transport-layer.md.
For all transports.ethernet.* configuration keys, see
../reference/configuration.md.
Why open, why forwarding off
Two deliberate choices distinguish this from a stock 802.11s setup:
encryption none— the mesh is open on purpose. Every FIPS peer link is already authenticated and encrypted by the Noise IK handshake, so SAE at L2 would duplicate that work, add a shared credential to provision across routers, and (on ath10k) force the firmware into its slower raw Tx/Rx mode. A stranger can form an 802.11s peering with your router and a FIPS peer link on top of it — the same open model as mDNS and BLE discovery, where the advert is only a hint and the handshake authenticates each link (no impersonation, no MITM) rather than gating who may peer. Admission is open up to the daemon's max-peers cap. What you concede: any nearby radio can peer and reach the FIPS overlay surface; L2 metadata (MAC addresses, frame sizes) is visible in the air; a hostile radio can burn airtime — all inherent to an open radio link.mesh_fwding 0— disables 802.11s's own HWMP routing so each mesh link is a plain neighbor link. FIPS is the routing layer; two routing layers would fight, and broadcast discovery beacons would flood the whole mesh instead of reaching direct neighbors only.
The interface is not bridged into br-lan — the FIPS Ethernet
transport binds it directly.
When to use
- Two or more OpenWrt FIPS routers within radio range of each other, where running cable is impractical.
- You want the mesh segment to keep working with zero shared credentials or per-site configuration ("flash and drop in").
It is not for connecting phones or laptops — client devices cannot join an 802.11s mesh. They enter the mesh through a normal AP on the same router (see constraints below), or over BLE.
Requirements
-
OpenWrt 22.03+ with the FIPS package installed.
-
A radio whose driver supports mesh point interfaces. Check with:
iw list | grep -A 10 "Supported interface modes" | grep "mesh point"The mainstream OpenWrt chips (ath9k, ath10k, mt76) all qualify.
-
Ideally a dual- or tri-band router, so one band can be dedicated to the backhaul (see constraints).
Step 1 — create the mesh interface(s)
On each router, run the helper once per radio you want in the backhaul:
fips-mesh-setup radio1
This creates an open 802.11s interface with mesh ID fips-mesh and
HWMP forwarding off, attaches it to an unmanaged netifd interface (no
IP configuration — none is needed), and reloads the radio. It does not
touch /etc/fips/fips.yaml: the matching meshN transport ships
enabled and the daemon binds the interface once it exists (see Step 2). Interfaces are named by radio index: radio0 → fips-mesh0,
radio1 → fips-mesh1. Pass a second argument to use a different
mesh ID.
Note: the helper runs wifi reload, which re-applies the whole
wireless config and so briefly drops every client AP on all radios for
a few seconds. fips-mesh-setup remove reloads the same way. Expect
the blip if clients are connected.
On dual-band routers, meshing both bands is worth it: 2.4 GHz reaches further at lower rates, 5 GHz carries more over shorter links. Note this is failover, not multipath: FIPS keeps one active link per peer, so traffic uses one band at a time — the other is a standby that re-establishes the peer if the active link dies (detection via keepalive timeout, so a cutover takes seconds, not milliseconds):
fips-mesh-setup radio0
fips-mesh-setup radio1
Pin the same channel on every backhaul router, per band. Mesh
points only peer on the same channel, and the mesh inherits whatever
the radio is set to — with channel 'auto' (the default on many
devices) each router picks its own and the mesh silently never forms.
The script prints the radio's current band and channel and warns on
auto:
uci set wireless.radio1.channel='36'
uci commit wireless && wifi reload
Prefer a non-DFS channel (36–48 on 5 GHz): on DFS channels the radio must wait ~60 s in CAC before transmitting after every reload.
Equivalent manual UCI (per radio), if you prefer to see what it does:
uci batch <<'EOF'
set wireless.fips_mesh_radio1=wifi-iface
set wireless.fips_mesh_radio1.device='radio1'
set wireless.fips_mesh_radio1.mode='mesh'
set wireless.fips_mesh_radio1.mesh_id='fips-mesh'
set wireless.fips_mesh_radio1.encryption='none'
set wireless.fips_mesh_radio1.mesh_fwding='0'
set wireless.fips_mesh_radio1.ifname='fips-mesh1'
set wireless.fips_mesh_radio1.network='fips_mesh_radio1'
set network.fips_mesh_radio1=interface
set network.fips_mesh_radio1.proto='none'
EOF
uci commit
wifi reload
Step 2 — check the FIPS transport binding
The fips.yaml shipped in the OpenWrt package carries one transport
entry per radio, enabled and marked optional: true. The daemon
treats a named interface that is not there as absent rather than as a
failure, and optional: true is what keeps a stock install that never
runs this helper quiet and un-Degraded about a radio it was never
going to have. There is normally nothing to do here. If you maintain
your own config (or ran the manual UCI above instead of the helper),
make sure the entries are present:
transports:
ethernet:
mesh0:
interface: "fips-mesh0"
optional: true
listen: true
announce: true
auto_connect: true
accept_connections: true
mesh1:
interface: "fips-mesh1"
listen: true
announce: true
auto_connect: true
accept_connections: true
listen: was called discovery: before v0.5.0; the old spelling still
parses as an alias, so an existing config keeps working (see
../reference/configuration.md).
Step 3 — no restart needed
The daemon binds an interface when it appears. A transport whose
interface is missing is absent, not skipped: it waits, binds within
a second of the interface coming up, unbinds if it goes away, and
rebinds when it returns. Order does not matter, and neither
/etc/init.d/fips restart nor any hotplug rule is part of this
procedure.
Watch it happen:
fipsctl show transports
The transport's interface block reports presence (absent /
binding / present), policy (required / optional) and how
long it has held that state.
If you changed a config value above rather than only creating an interface, that does need a restart — configuration is read at startup, interfaces are not:
/etc/init.d/fips restart
Verify
L2 first — the 802.11s peering, with a second configured router in range:
iw dev fips-mesh0 station dump
You should see one station entry per neighbor router, with signal levels. No entries means a radio problem, not a FIPS problem — triage in this order:
-
Channel mismatch (the most common cause): compare
iw dev fips-mesh0 infoon both routers — mesh ID and channel must match exactly. -
The mesh interface never joined —
iw dev fips-meshX infoshowstype mesh pointbut no channel line, andstation dumpis empty. Usual cause: a client (sta) interface on the same radio. A STA must follow its upstream AP's channel, the whole radio follows the STA, and a mesh pinned to a different channel silently stays down. Check for a STA sharing the radio (iw dev, look fortype managedon the same phy), compareiw dev <sta-iface> info | grep channel, and re-pin the mesh channel to match — on every backhaul router. -
Is the other router transmitting at all?
iw dev fips-mesh0 scan | grep -i -B4 "MESH ID"Its mesh ID visible → transmission works, peering is failing (mesh ID typo, or one side has encryption set). Nothing visible → check
wifi statuson the other router, remember the ~60 s DFS CAC wait, and confirm the country code is set (uci get wireless.radio1.country) — an unset regdomain can block channels entirely. -
logread | grep -iE "mesh|fips-mesh0"on both sides.
Then the FIPS layer on top:
logread | grep -i beacon # beacons flowing on the new transport
fipsctl show peers # neighbor authenticated and connected
fipsctl show links # link on the 'ethernet' transport
Discovery is automatic: each node beacons its pubkey every few
seconds, and auto_connect initiates the Noise handshake on first
sight.
Constraints
- Airtime is shared per radio. All virtual interfaces on one
radio (AP + mesh) share one channel, and multi-hop forwarding on a
single radio roughly halves throughput per hop. On dual/tri-band
hardware, dedicate one band to
fips-mesh0and serve clients on the others. - AP + mesh coexistence is driver-dependent. It works on the
mainstream chips (this is the standard Freifunk/Gluon setup), but
check
iw listunder "valid interface combinations" for your hardware. - Clients can't join. Phones and laptops reach the mesh through the router's normal AP or via BLE — never through the 802.11s interface.
- Radio links are lossy. A neighbor at the edge of range will form an 802.11s peering yet deliver a fraction of its frames. Expect link-quality effects that don't exist on wired Ethernet.
- A client (STA) uplink on the same radio owns the channel. The
STA must follow whatever channel its upstream AP uses; every other
interface on that radio follows the STA. A mesh pinned to a
different channel silently never joins, and it does not recover
when the STA disconnects — a
wifi reload(plus a fips restart) is needed. A roaming uplink (travel-router / hotspot-chasing setups) is fundamentally incompatible with a fixed-channel mesh on the same radio: dedicate the mesh to the radio the STA never uses, and treat any mesh sharing a STA radio as best-effort.